I think that the holidays feel like frozen noses. I love walking with the dog for long periods of time.

Hopefully it's snowing and you've got to wrap up warm. So I think a frozen nose is a sweaty armpit

because your wrapped up so warm but then you're climbing hamps and heath and you get to the top

and you're like, and then you can see the breath but then your nose is still freezing to touch.

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Hi everybody, thanks so much for joining us for a very special edition of Intelligent Square US.

I'm John Donbass and today I'm going to reveal a debate we produced at the 35th annual Public Radio Program Director's Association conference

that was held in New Orleans. And this is the kind of place where hundreds of public media professionals

from across the nation get together every year and they discuss ideas and topics that are most important,

the things that are going on in their fields and to ask some really hard questions of themselves and of their profession.

So in that spirit we went there and decided to ask a hard question of our own.

In fact, calling it hard may downplay it just a little bit because for this particular crowd

you might call this question existential and it was, is public radio still relevant?

Now keep in mind we recorded this debate in a hotel conference room and we didn't have the usual bells and whistles for our normal setup.

So it's going to sound a little bit different than what you're used to.

That said, I think you're going to like it. It's a good one. So let's get to it.

Terrific. It really is an honor for us to be here and I want to thank PRPD for giving us this slot.

In part to show us what it is we do but also in part to assist in the process that I think is going on at this conference.

Is public radio still relevant? We really are going full on existential here.

Typically over the years since we were founded in 2006 we would assemble a group of people and we would ask an audience to tell us whether they agreed or disagreed with what we were then using as a motion.

We've opened that up to turning it into a question which we think allows for more possibilities and more nuance.

So we ask people are you yes or no on the question and on your table you have a coin that has a yes on one side and a no on the other and you're not going to be held to this or account for but just to play along with us.

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