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Is Public Assistance a Subsidy or Tax to Employers?

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4.5979 Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2018

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Senator Bernie Sanders believes that public assistance benefits provided to workers constitute subsidies to their employers. He couldn't be more wrong, according to Ryan Bourne.

Related paper: "Government and the Cost of Living: Income-Based vs. Cost-Based Approaches to Alleviating Poverty," by Ryan Bourne


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0:00.0

This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Monday, September 17th, 2018.

0:09.3

I'm Caleb Brown.

0:10.5

Senator Bernie Sanders' new Stop Bizos Act is legislation aimed squarely at large employers that employ people who receive public assistance.

0:18.0

The Act would attempt to tax away what the Senator believes are subsidies to the employer.

0:23.0

Cato's Ryanborn says Senator Sanders' effort, even if well-intentioned,

0:27.0

would have the opposite of its intended effects.

0:30.0

As members of Congress love to do, they like having the first word of every letter of a piece of legislation they file, form an acronym.

0:40.0

In this case, it is the Stop Bezos Act.

0:45.0

What are the words underlying that acronym and what are the goals of

0:50.0

Senator Sanders in filing this legislation.

0:53.0

Well, the Stop Beezels Act, the acronym represents stop bad employers by zeroing out

0:59.0

subsidies act.

1:01.3

And this is part of the senator's long running campaign against corporate America

1:06.1

over the issue of what he perceived to be worker pay being too low and in particular

1:12.1

at major companies such as Amazon and Walmart.

1:15.0

So the idea through the bill is that you can kind of cajole businesses to pay their workers more in terms of hourly pay or full-time pay by

1:28.7

threatening them with a corporate welfare tax that would say if you have more than 500 employees and your employees

1:35.9

are in receipt of certain federal benefits, food stamps, school meals, rental

1:40.5

assistance or federal contributions to Medicaid, then if your employees receive those benefits,

1:46.0

you will be taxed at a dollar for dollar amount for the value of those benefits.

1:51.3

So that's at least on the face of it what he's trying to achieve with the bill.

1:55.1

I think in reality this has got little prospect of passing through Congress and so what

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