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Is Private Equity Destroying Your Favorite Consumer Products?

Money Tree Investing

Money Tree Investing Podcast

Stockmarket, Valuestocks, Investing, Finance, Passiveincome, Wealth, Business, Personalfinance

4.6658 Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Is private equity destroying your favorite consumer products? Today we discuss economic news, recent Trump-era tariffs, and private equity. We touch on corporate profit margins, wage growth versus price increases, and how different industries—like autos—are affected unevenly. We also explore interest rates and the possibility that traditional cause-and-effect in markets is “broken,” questioning whether metrics like CPI, GDP, and rate changes meaningfully influence market behavior anymore, given recent patterns where markets defy economic logic.

We discuss... 

  • Recent economic updates included the rollback of several Trump-era tariffs, though many remain in place.
  • Companies are currently absorbing most tariff-related costs instead of passing them directly to consumers.
  • Concerns were raised that if companies start passing these costs along, price increases could hit consumers later in the year.
  • Wage growth trends are compared with rising prices, raising questions about future consumer spending strength.
  • Industry impacts from tariffs vary, with the auto sector singled out as experiencing specific pressures.
  • Recent market resilience even in the face of economic data could historically trigger volatility or declines.
  • Earnings reports no longer move markets as much because companies lower expectations to easily beat estimates.
  • The focus on quarterly earnings is misleading; long-term company growth matters more on an individual level but less on a macro scale.
  • Value investing has underperformed for about 20 years because fundamentals matter less in today’s market.
  • The Fed’s interest rate tools are less effective because global capital flows and supply shocks weaken their control.
  • The Fed can still cause recessions by raising rates too high but can’t fine-tune the economy like before.
  • Supply-driven inflation (like energy and supply chains) is less responsive to Fed rate hikes.
  • Market rates often lead Fed policy, meaning bond traders set financial conditions before the Fed acts.
  • Private equity often overleverages companies, leading to bankruptcies despite popular products, like Instapot.
  • Private equity uses dividend recapitalization to extract value quickly, saddling companies with unsustainable debt.
  • Examples like Sears, Joanne Fabrics, Red Lobster, and Toys “R” Us show how private equity can ruin beloved brands.
  • Private equity has been successful for investors but often at the expense of the long-term health of companies.
  • Financial planning for college funding is increasingly critical given new loan limits and repayment changes.

 

Today's Panelists:

Kirk Chisholm | Innovative Wealth
Douglas Heagren | ProCollege Planners

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Money Tree Investing Podcast.

0:04.0

Stock market, wealth, personal finance, value stocks, invest in your life.

0:10.0

Hello, Smart MoneyTee Podcast listeners. Welcome to the Sweet Show. My name is Kirk Chisholm. I'll be your host. And today I'm joined with my good friend Doug Hagrin. Hey Doug.

0:18.0

Good morning, Kirk. A busy weekend for me. Football's back,

0:22.8

went to the Vikings preseason game, and I turned around, took my son to annual planning for

0:29.5

scouts for the year. We were winding down to, what, one more week until the kids are back in school.

0:35.1

I can't believe the summer's coming to an end. I know they can't believe summer's coming to an end. How are things for you back in Massachusetts? We're still normal. I know the rest of the country's gone crazy and they start school in the summer, but our kids still start after Labor Day. So thankfully. Yeah, they're starting us earlier this year. It's a new program. Like they're starting earlier.

0:55.2

They're condensing these classes.

0:56.7

They're going to get out in May.

0:58.5

I don't see the logic for it, but here we go. Oh, and they're, and, but this is going to be interesting. And so my daughter and I went to the, she's on the soccer team, so they had their annual, you know, their kickoff meeting yesterday, all the, all the potential players had to show up for a pre-triouts, which started this morning.

1:19.5

They brought it up again.

1:21.6

That's something that they're changing this year.

1:24.1

Zero tolerance on cell phones in school.

1:32.0

So it's not just talking on a phone. If they literally see it in their backpack in a pocket, if they're, they have been told from the superintendent to

1:37.3

the principal, if they see a phone under any circumstance, it's out of the locker, it will be

1:42.7

confiscated. No exceptions. The parent has to come and get it.

1:47.8

They will not give it back to the students. So this is going to be a hardcore. What was there,

1:51.9

what I find is interesting. And I'm probably going to be controversial to people who are listening

1:55.8

to this because we've come to a world where we feel like it is a necessity. We can't live without it.

2:01.6

We know that it's not true, right?

2:03.5

We only allow that necessity to be as much as we want. We had pay phones. We could go to the office. People are like, well, what do we do if we need to call some? Go to the office, use the phone. Actually, it's nice. Back in the day, we had to have a quarter. If we didn't have a quarter, we couldn't call anybody.

1:58.2

Now they'll actually just let you use the phone in the office.

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