Hey there, fellow training nerds.

You are listening to drinking from the toilet.

If you like to geek out about combining the science and behavior with positive reinforcement philosophy in real life, you've come to the right place.

And I'm your host, Hannah Branigan, teacher, trainer, podcaster, and author of the book, Awesome, Obedience,

as well as its companion, awesome Obedience of the Field Guide,

which are both available at any time from quickertraining.com.

So, some time ago, I made one of those hot take posts on social media. Maybe saw, maybe

didn't, it doesn't matter. My hot take was that the idea that training with positive

reinforcement takes longer than training with

aversives is a myth that needs to die. That is to say, there is a common cultural belief that

training with positive reinforcement inherently takes longer, and it's not real. That's not a real

thing. And I want to change that. Are U.S.? I don't believe

they exist? Okay. So this post ruffled some feathers. I mean, of course, when I posted it,

I knew that not everyone was going to be into it. I knew that there would be disagreement.

I knew it would be triggering or controversial with a certain group. I was a little surprised by some of the push

pack that I got from other folks, but it is the nature of internet posts to be a little light

on nuance and context. And I mean, maybe one day I will figure out how to manage my feelings

around conflict, and at that point I'll be able to just appreciate the engagement. That's not where we are today, though. So I did think about some of the feedback that I got, both in the form of conversation, comments on the posts where they showed up, and also people feel free apparently to send me private messages. That's fine. So I did reflect on it. I mean, not all of it, right? Some of it

just met the delete button. While I am very sensitive, I'm not stupid. But yeah, even after taking

into account, reflecting on the feedback, having conversations with my trusted advisors,

still, this is a statement that I 100% stand behind. And due to the absence of context, I thought,

hey, you know what, this might be a good subject to make a little podcast about so that I could

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