I'm Rory Stewart and I want to talk about ignorance. I will die without having read

everything that was written in classical Latin. Because ignorance isn't simply the opposite of knowledge.

It's part of what it means to be human.

Just about every game I can think of involves ignorance.

There's no adventure without ignorance. There's no there's no narrative.

The long history of ignorance from Confucius to Kianon

with me Rory Stewart,

listen on BBC Sounds.

Hello and thanks for downloading the more or less podcast.

We're the show where we take a long hard look at the numbers in the news and in life,

and I'm Kate Lamble.

Loyal listener William McNiven

emailed more or less at BBC.co. UK to ask about an interview he heard by Canadian

psychologist and Culture War commentator Jordan Peterson.

Talking to the British Reform Party MP Nigel Farage about climate change, Jordan Peterson

said it seemed to him that the increasing amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, which drives

global warming, was in fact a net ecological

good. In the last 20 years alone the planet has greened by an area factor of 20%, which is twice as big as the continental

United States.

Now that's not all.

Not only has it got greener and a lot greener the places that got greener were

primarily semi-arid areas in fact exactly the areas that the climate doomsayers

...