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That's not a phrase you here every day. Join once again by Jack Howard.

Hello. Jack. As you may know, so I've just written, I'm just written. I've been an author all the time you've known me.

So I'm just trying to do the I'm a filmmaker. You're an author, yeah, yeah, yeah. But so this book that I've been writing about film music for ages and ages and ages and age and age and ages is finally out. You're picking hairs on the microphone. And I wanted to talk. I don't want this just to be sort of a thing about the book because I kind of feel like I'm out there selling it in many different ways

I wanted to talk to you about two things one of them was do you think that the soundtrack

collectors market is is still a thing and the second thing is soundtracks in terms of the sound and sound effects of a movie. So let me begin with the first one. One of the things I tried to do with the book, which called Surround Sand. It's called Mark Comod's Surround Sound. I've co-written it with Jenny Nelson, who was my producer at Scarler Radio, who's been brilliant. She was the person, he was the reason the book finally got written. It was 10 years in the writing. And eight of those years was me failing to write it. And then two of them was Jenny coming on board and it getting done and she's been great. One of the things that I did was, when I was, when I first came back down to London from Manchester at the end of the 80s, I used to go to a, there was a soundtrack store called 58th Street. Okay. And it was the soundtrack's Emporium, and it was the Mashita brothers were kind of in charge of it at that point. And there was a soundtrack collector's market, and there was a certain type of person who was a soundtrack collector. And they... Do you embody that? No, I was actually the less nerdy end of it.

I mean, I was very much an amateur.

One of the things that would happen was that if you went to 58 Dean Street, which is now a cafe,

if you went to 58 Dean Street on a Saturday morning and you got there before it opened,

there would be five or six people hanging around outside, waiting for it to open

because they wanted to go in and see what the new arrivals were, see if there was any

rarities that they didn't have. These were all, we were talking about vinyl largely.

I was literally about to ask you to like clarify for me. This is a vinyl shop.

Yeah, I'm sorry. Specifically sells sold because it Because it's gone now. Right. It specifically sold soundtracks, albums. Yes. On vinyl and to some extent on cassette, but vinyl really. So that was the main thing. So because obviously this is so strange for me because we're friends and everything, but you are from the, are from the post vinyl generation i am yeah cassettes and then cds yeah yeah what was

was my first introduction to sort of home media and then quite quickly after that it was the ipod

so when i was a kid it was records 12 inch records which would have a big 12 inch sleeve

which would have a poster of the film on, like, rollerball, or silent running or, you know, something like that.

And then on the back, there'd be some information, but there'd usually be more pictures or the clockwork orange soundtrack, or, you know, whatever it was.

And this is in the age before video really when I first started collecting

soundtracks it was a way of reliving a movie I literally was about to ask is it because the film

wasn't available at home on on home media that you could you could listen to the soundtrack

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