Is Our Winter COVID Wave Coming? (with Katelyn Jetelina)

In the Bubble with Andy Slavitt

Lemonada Media

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4.6 • 3.5K Ratings

🗓️ 7 December 2022

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Despite some uptick in cases and hospitalizations, COVID is disrupting life less this winter compared to winters past. Why, and what does that mean as we enter 2023? Andy speaks with epidemiologist and ITB favorite Katelyn Jetelina, who offers an hypothesis for why new mutations are not wreaking havoc like Omicron did last year. She also breaks down the added dangers of flu and RSV and predicts the worldwide implications if China relaxes its zero COVID policies.

As an added bonus, today’s episode includes an important conversation from the "Voices From the Frontlines" series, featuring Donnie Nelson and Dr. Nona Yunzhu Mei discussing their work in palliative care and how their holistic approach guided them through the pandemic.

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1:17.0	This is in the bubble with Andy Slavitt. Look, public health people get a bad rap. Maybe it deserves a rap sometime.
1:46.0	For telling us all the bad news, and look, someone's got to present the news to us good or bad,
1:53.0	and public health people call it as they see it.
1:57.0	Caitlin Jettelina is on the program today because I think she's one of the most balanced of the public health people we know.
2:04.0	And I think the real question is, why is this winter different from our past winters,
2:13.0	and will it remain so? If you go back to the year 2020, we didn't yet have a vaccine.
2:19.0	It was a horrible winter. People were dying. The vaccine was beginning to roll out.
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