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🗓️ 30 March 2022
⏱️ 25 minutes
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At the start of the pandemic, there was an overwhelming sense that once there were vaccines, you’d be less likely to die from COVID-19 and the risk would all but go away. Then came long COVID.
According to one estimate, between 7 million and 23 million people in the United States have developed long COVID. That means that weeks or even months after an initial infection, they’re still suffering from a wide range of debilitating symptoms including shortness of breath, brain fog and heart palpitations.
And, in some cases, symptoms are so severe, people have left their jobs. So is our economy prepared?
“If you think about the way that our country manages disability, probably no,” said Jessica Malaty Rivera, an epidemiologist and senior adviser at the Rockefeller Foundation’s Pandemic Prevention Institute. “We can barely get our disability to work for people who are pregnant and having children. So I can’t imagine that it’s going to be very accommodating to those who are experiencing long COVID.”
On the show today, we’ll talk with Malaty Rivera about the health and socioeconomic effects of long COVID.
In the Newsfix, we’ve got a quick and dirty explainer on the bond yield curve and why it’s all over the news today. Plus, we’ll hear from listeners about the Farmers’ Almanac’s weather predictions and the Oscars, and a veterinarian shares a surprising answer to the Make Me Smart question.
Here’s everything we talked about today:
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| 0:00.0 | My goodness, that's some good pre-podcast chatter. |
| 0:04.4 | Let me just say. |
| 0:05.8 | I'm Kim Rilliettems. |
| 0:08.1 | Welcome everyone to Make Me Smart, where none of us is as smart as all of us. |
| 0:12.9 | Thank you for hanging out. |
| 0:14.4 | That's right. |
| 0:15.4 | I'm Kyle Rizdolz. |
| 0:16.4 | Tuesday, we're going to do an in-depth conversation, shall we say, about a single topic. |
| 0:21.8 | Today is long COVID, and why long COVID? |
| 0:25.4 | Number one, because somewhere between 7 and 23 million people have it, so there's that. |
| 0:31.9 | Number two, I heard about a thing called medium COVID the other day, which is just, I'm not |
| 0:35.6 | in the mood for you. |
| 0:36.6 | So we're going to talk about that. |
| 0:38.6 | And it's just, this is the life that millions of people in this economy are living, and so |
| 0:43.8 | we're going to talk about it. |
| 0:45.1 | Yeah, and if you think about that, between 7 and 23 million, the fact that we don't know |
| 0:50.5 | and that huge range tells us that we really don't know a lot about it, and some COVID long |
| 0:56.5 | haulers are saying that they're feeling fatigue, brain fog, shortness of breath, lots of |
| 1:02.5 | other problems. |
| 1:03.5 | And in some cases, people have actually had to leave their jobs, leave the workforce. |
| 1:09.4 | There is a lot of research ongoing right now looking into long COVID. |
| 1:14.2 | You have the National Institutes of Health, which launched a $1 billion initiative to look |
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