Is "Off The Wall" Michael's True Masterpiece?
You'll Hear It: Full Album Deep Dives with Jazz Musicians
Peter Martin
4.9 • 770 Ratings
🗓️ 17 March 2025
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
When Epic Records told Michael Jackson “no” to Quincy Jones, he fought back and changed music forever. Join Adam Maness and Peter Martin as they dive into Jackson’s 1979 masterpiece Off The Wall – the album that planted MJ’s flag as a solo artist. We explore how a young Michael partnered with Quincy Jones, created magic with studio legends Louis Johnson and Greg Phillinganes, and transformed Rod Temperton’s “I Want to Eat You Up” into a radio-friendly “Rock With You.” Hear rare demos and interviews, isolated stems, and discover why this record still delivers HITS! decades later. Between Quincy’s touch, Michael’s heart-pouring intensity, and a whole lot of masterful musicians emerged something that united the world in a way few artists ever could.
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| 0:00.0 | So she's sitting there and like, you know, I don't like to make trouble with anybody. Like I'm not going to be the first person. Sometimes you do. Well, but only when I've been. Yeah. But I know what you're saying. You know what I'm saying? It's an ongoing issue, really. With her specifically, and I don't know why, right? And I think I'd like to put. Totally. Sorry. Oh, my bad. I'm listening. I'm listening. |
| 0:01.3 | Come on. |
| 0:01.5 | Anyway, so then Ron walks in, and Ron actually mentioned you specifically, which I'd like to put... Totally, totally. Oh, my bad. I'm listening. |
| 0:21.4 | Anyway, so then Ron walks in, and Ron actually mentioned you specifically, which is... Classic Ron. Well, but you know, you and him have had that, like, there's been a, like, a bit of a... A little disconnected. Well... Buddy. Oh, I'm sorry, man. It's just... It's hard. It's hard. this. |
| 0:17.3 | Okay, go ahead. |
| 0:18.0 | Anyway, so, like, Ron turns to her, |
| 0:20.0 | and you're not going to believe what she, buddy. Oh, I'm sorry, man. It's hard. It's hard. Okay, go ahead. |
| 0:37.8 | Anyway, so, like, Ron turns to her, and you're not going to believe what she does. |
| 0:42.3 | Like, she looks down, then looks out the window, turns back to Ron, and, like, get... |
| 0:49.9 | Man, I'm trying to tell a story here. |
| 0:52.2 | My bad. |
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