Is nuclear disarmament set to self-destruct?
The Inquiry
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🗓️ 13 January 2026
⏱️ 24 minutes
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Summary
In February 2026, the last remaining nuclear arms control treaty bilateral between Russia and the United States is set to expire. The aim of the New START agreement was to reduce and limit the number of strategic nuclear warheads, but once this treaty comes to an end it means there will no longer be rules on the cap of these nuclear weapons. The legal provisions in the treaty for a one-time five-year extension, were used in 2021.
The multilateral Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) is still in place, to which 190 countries are signatories. The general idea behind the NPT was for nuclear countries to reduce their stockpiles of nuclear weapons, with the goal of complete disarmament. Whilst those countries without nuclear weapons would commit to not pursuing them. In 1995 the members agreed to extend the treaty indefinitely, but it is not without its challenges. Four nuclear powers sit outside the NPT and there are rifts between the non-nuclear and nuclear states.
So, on The Inquiry this week we’re asking, ‘Is nuclear disarmament set to self-destruct?’
Contributors: Hermann Wentker, Professor of Modern History, University of Potsdam and Head of Berlin Research Department, The Leibniz Institute for Contemporary History, Germany Alexandra Bell, President and CEO, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, USA Mike Albertson, arms-control expert, former negotiator on New START arms reduction treaty, USA Nathalie Tocci, Professor of Practice, Johns Hopkins SAIS (School of Advanced International Studies), Italy
Presenter: Charmaine Cozier Producer: Jill Collins Researcher: Evie Yabsley Production Management Assistant: Liam Morrey Technical Producer: Richard Hannaford Editor: Tom Bigwood
(Photo: Deck of the nuclear submarine Saphir. Credit: Alexis Rosenfeld/Getty Images)
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, radio, podcasts. |
| 0:05.4 | Welcome to the inquiry from the BBC World Service. I'm Charmaine Cozier. |
| 0:10.6 | Each week, one question, four expert witnesses and an answer. |
| 0:16.9 | February 2026. |
| 0:19.8 | That's the expiry date of the new strategic arms reduction treaty or Newstart. |
| 0:25.8 | It's the last remaining nuclear arms control treaty between Russia and the US. |
| 0:32.1 | Beyond that bilateral agreement, some countries are expanding their nuclear weapon collections. |
| 0:39.5 | States that don't have them are considering getting them. So this week we're asking, is nuclear disarmament set to |
| 0:47.3 | self-destruct? Part 1. Going Nuclear. |
| 0:59.4 | Well, it all started during the Second World War. |
| 1:04.1 | When the great powers involved, try to do everything to win this war. |
| 1:08.4 | And the development of nuclear weapons was one method. |
| 1:15.0 | My name is Herman Wendke. I'm head of the Berlin Department of the Institute for Contemporary History and I am professor for modern history at the University of |
| 1:20.1 | Potsdam. A number of states worked on such projects during World War II, Germany on the one side, |
| 1:26.7 | on the other side, the United States, |
| 1:28.7 | and the US were, in the end, successful in collaboration with the United Kingdom and Canada. |
| 1:35.5 | That top secret research collaboration was called the Manhattan Project. |
| 1:40.0 | Scientists raced to develop and deploy the world's first atomic weapons before Germany could. |
| 1:45.6 | They managed to build an atomic bomb in the Manhattan Project in Los Alamos in the United States |
| 1:52.3 | and then used the atomic bomb twice, as we all know, against the war in Japan in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. |
| 2:00.5 | The US is still the only country to have deployed nuclear weapons in war. |
| 2:05.6 | The Soviets were informed about the Manhattan Project by a spy, |
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