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This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our Super Secret Studio

in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C.

and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.

Hello and welcome to another episode of the podcast.

I'm pleased to be joined today by our friend Laurie Garrett,

Pulitzer Prize winning medical journalist,

one of the great leading voices during the course of this pandemic.

In a little while, we'll be joined, of course, by Dr. Kavita Patel,

who's always with us on Thursday afternoons.

But she is died performing medicine someplace or performing journalism someplace.

Let me start off with you, though.

Laurie, the CDC has made some decisions today that seem relevant to our discussion.

Maybe we could start with that.

Yeah, the CDC's advisory committee was boving today,

much as the FDA's advisory committee did last week.

And like the FDA committee, they've faced the same darn problem.

So on the one hand, you have all this data from Israel in particular,

and some pretty striking data from the United States that shows that

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