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Oh boy.

So I love the coaching carousel.

It's one of my favorite things about the NBA is really that kind of level of chaos

and happening before the carnival is even over yet.

I'm not talking about IMEU doca rumors to Houston either, which have him linked to Houston

for the last couple of weeks.

I am talking about one of the most respected names in the NBA,

widely considered a top five coach in the league,

and one of the best coaches in history, probably.

What he did for the 2019 Toronto Raptors with Kauai Leonard,

pretty remarkable Nicknors.

This was a little bit of a shit show over year.

We interviewed him before the season started.

It was a lot of hearts and flowers.

Well, everybody thought this team was going to be pretty good.

Pascal Siakum had a career year.

O.G. An Anobi was really good.

Fred Van Fleet was really good.

Yeah, Gary Trent, Jr., not so much.

But listen, did anybody think that there would be this much dysfunction to the point where people are starting to check in on Nick's status for the following few years while he's sitting there under contract?

No. No. It went off the rails, really really before it ever started. So they had a weak

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