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The Town with Matthew Belloni

Is Netflix or YouTube the King in Streaming?

The Town with Matthew Belloni

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.3847 Ratings

🗓️ 22 July 2024

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Matt is joined by Bloomberg’s Lucas Shaw to discuss Netflix’s strong second-quarter earnings, and how the company’s strong numbers might weaken in the next few years partially because of their underwhelming advertising revenue. They then ask a larger question: Is the race for streaming now down to two finalists—Netflix and YouTube (2:43)? Matt finishes the show with a prediction for which city will win hosting duties of the 2027 Sundance Film Festival (25:30). For a 20 percent discount on Matt’s Hollywood insider newsletter, ‘What I’m Hearing ...,’ click here. Email us your thoughts! [email protected] Host: Matt Belloni Guest: Lucas Shaw Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie Lopez Theme Song: Devon Renaldo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is Bill Simmons. I am thrilled to announce our newest YouTube channel. It's called

0:04.6

Ringer Movies. If you're a fan of our movie coverage here at the Ringer, then you're in luck,

0:08.9

because every episode of The Rewatchables and the Big Picture, now on YouTube.

0:13.7

Like Bill said, Ringer Movies will feature full episodes of my show, The Big Picture,

0:17.2

the Rewatchables, as well as special live episodes, deep dives into movie history,

0:23.9

and a bunch of other fun stuff featuring other movie-loving Ringer personalities.

0:29.9

Search Ringer movies on YouTube and Experience the Joy, Chris Ryan impersonating Wayne Jenkins on camera.

0:38.7

It is Monday, July 22nd.

0:44.2

Netflix revealed its second quarter earnings last week, and overall, the numbers were pretty good.

0:46.4

They added 8 million subscribers.

0:49.0

They're up to 280 million worldwide.

0:50.9

Thank you, password sharing crackdown.

0:54.6

And they grew profits to more than $2 billion in the quarter.

1:00.2

Streaming may be a really tough business overall, but Netflix is now a very profitable business,

1:05.9

and streaming is really their only business. Despite that, the stock price was initially down a little,

1:10.4

though it's since recovered, and that's because the guidance that Netflix gave suggests that those strong numbers might weaken a little later this year and into the next. And that's because the guidance that Netflix gave suggests that those strong numbers

1:11.4

might weaken a little later this year and into the next. And it's also because the numbers on

1:16.1

Netflix's advertising tiers were just okay, not spectacular. Greg Peters, the co-CEO, he said that

1:22.4

ad tier signups were up 34% quarter on quarter, that it now accounts for 45% of all new signups in markets

1:30.0

where the ad tier is available.

1:32.1

That's signups, but analysts estimate that Netflix generated just under $800 million

1:37.4

in ad-supported revenue for the first half of this year, which is only about 4% of the

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