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Hi and welcome to Normal Gossip. I'm Kelsey McKinney. In each episode of this podcast,

we're going to bring you an anonymous morsel of gossip from the real world. I am thrilled today to

welcome Liv Albert to the show and absolute joy for me personally. Liv is the host and creator of

the podcast. Let's talk about myths, baby, and author of the book's Greek mythology handbook and

nectar of the gods. Liv, welcome to Normal Gossip. Thank you for having me. I am so excited.

Oh my god, I'm so excited and I do. I like really want to talk about myths in depth. I have

many questions for you. But first, can you tell me what your personal relationship with gossip is like?

I've thought a lot about this in advance of the recording. Great. I've put a lot of thought into it.

And I think that so a number of years ago, I left an office job for the last time. And I think the

number one thing I miss is the gossip that inherently comes with just being in an office. And also,

I worked in an office that was primarily women and there was just so much gossip. It was so good.

And I think that now I don't have a great outlet for gossip in my life and I miss it.

But I actively enjoy it. And I'm sure this will come up. But I do think that Greek mythology is

also just gossip from the ancient world. And I will down that hill.

Fine, we can transition into the myths immediately because, okay, this is like, I was so excited to

have you on because last year I read Gilgamesh and like, please stay with me. I was like, this

fucking bro. Like these two bros are just like, do they want to kiss on the mouth? Like,

what's going on in this epic story? And it kind of like messed up my ability to think about oral

storytelling because I was like, it feels to me like there's this kind of continuum that starts with

gossip. And it's like gossip oral storytelling myth lore. Like it's like, there's just this kind of

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