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ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

Is My Company's Stock Overpriced | P/E Ratio Explained

ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

Jonathan Mendonsa & Brad Barrett | Choose FI Media, Inc

Business, Careers, Investing

4.85.2K Ratings

🗓️ 19 April 2021

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Your paycheck already has concentration risk — why compound it with your investments? Christy participates in her company's Employee Stock Purchase Plan, buying shares at a 15% discount, but wonders whether to hold them long-term or sell immediately. Brian Feroldi walks through the tax math, explains how to use the Price-to-Earnings ratio to evaluate whether 3M stock is actually worth holding, and highlights why doubling down on your employer's stock can backfire if your job and portfolio both depend on the same company's fate. Key Topics Discussed: Understanding ESPP [00:03:17] Christy discusses her company's ESPP and the implications of holding a significant amount of company stock. How ESPPs work, including the 15% discount and tax consequences. Price to Earnings Ratio Overview [00:13:29] Brian Feroldi explains the price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio as a tool for evaluating stocks, emphasizing its limitations. How to utilize the P/E ratio effectively in investment decisions. Investment Strategy Discussion [00:12:47] Balance between investing in employer stock vs. diversifying investments through index funds. The importance of risk management in investment decisions. Conclusion and Key Takeaways [00:36:13] Summary of the risks associated with investing heavily in one's employer and the advantages of diversified investment portfolios. Notable Quotes: "Many publicly traded companies offer employees an Employee Stock Purchase Plan (ESPP) for investment opportunities." [00:05:19] "Holding your stock for two years allows the gain beyond the 15% discount to be taxed at lower capital gains rates." [00:06:58] "Consider the risk of adding more investment in a company where your career and salary are already tied." [00:07:59] "Investing in 3M offers an immediate 15% return on your stock purchase, assuming prices remain stable." [00:10:02] Resources: Big Earn's Article on ESPPs [00:21:27] YCharts Tool for Stock Evaluation [00:21:29] StockRow [00:21:29] Glossary of Terms: Employee Stock Purchase Plan (ESPP): A program allowing employees to purchase company stock at a discount. [00:03:17] Price to Earnings Ratio (P/E): A ratio used to value a company, calculated as the current share price divided by the earnings per share. [00:13:29] Capital Gains Tax: A tax on the profit made from selling an asset, with varying rates depending on how long the asset was held. [00:27:38] Cost Basis: The original value of an asset, used for tax purposes to determine capital gains. [00:04:53]

Transcript

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All right, everyone on today's episode, we're going to discuss price to earnings ratio

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and how that might relate to an ESPP employee stock purchase plan.

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And we're going to be doing this with Christie, who is one of the participants in our households

0:10.6

of Phi case study series.

0:12.8

And we were able to connect her to Brian Faraldi, friend of the Phi community.

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And has come on the show many, many times to take a look at this approach to evaluating

0:20.9

great companies buying and holding for the long term.

0:24.3

Welcome to the ultimate crowdsource.

0:25.9

Personal finance show.

0:26.9

This is Choose That Phi.

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We're listening to Choose That Phi Radio.

0:33.0

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0:43.8

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0:48.8

you're in the right place.

0:50.6

Stay tuned and join a community of like-minded people who are getting off the answer

0:55.0

and taking control of their lives in the pursuit of financial independence.

0:59.7

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1:01.0

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1:06.1

All right, guys, excited to dive into this case study and to help me with this, I have

1:19.2

my co-spread here with me today.

1:20.7

How you doing, buddy?

1:21.7

Hey, Jonathan, I am doing quite well.

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