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Hi, I'm Jonathan K. Part and welcome to K-Up.

Garrett. Hi, I'm Jonathan Kapart, and welcome to K-PU.

Garrett Graf is the author of The Threat Matrix, Inside Robert Mueller's FBI and the War on Global

Terror, and today is in that small crew of reporters that knows the ins and

ounce of Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the

2016 presidential election. He's here to help make sense of the

avalanche of documents and news out of the Mueller probe.

There's a lot to take in, but one once unthinkable thing is become startlingly more real.

The completely inconceivable idea

that the President of the United States

is an active agent of Russian intelligence

no longer seems completely unthinkable.

Graph explains this and why the Mueller probe is too far along to be effectively shut down right now.

Garrett Graf, thank you very much for being on the podcast.

Oh, my pleasure.

So, Garrett, the Mueller investigation, everything about it is, to my so huge so complex I was having a hard time figuring out

like where do I even begin to start this conversation so how about I started here? In the Washington Post, we had a story and we have this graphic. This is from December 9th, which says coincidence or coordination, Russians approached at least 14 people in

Trump's orbit during the campaign and presidential transition.

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