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Not Another One

Is Morgan McSweeney too powerful?

Not Another One

Richards Green Montgomerie Martin

Prime Minister, Political Commentary, Number 10, News, Rishi Sunak, Political, Not Another One, Politics, General Election

4.7566 Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

A new book has caused waves by suggesting Morgan McSweeney wields more power than Keir Starmer. Is he freakishly influential as a behind the scenes figure? If so what does this tell us about Starmer? Or do all prime ministers depend on their chosen allies, advisers and gurus from Marcia Williams to Dominic Cummings?

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to not another one with me, Steve Richards, Tim Montgomery,

0:15.7

Miranda Green and Ian Martin. Thank you very much for tuning in.

0:19.8

We're going to reflect on, now I know many other people have been tuning in. We're going to reflect on...

0:22.6

Now, I know many other people have been doing this.

0:24.2

We're going to do it in a different way.

0:27.2

There's been a huge amount about Morgan McSweeney,

0:30.4

Kirstama's Chief of Staff.

0:32.5

A book has come out, which I've read and is utterly compelling.

0:37.3

By Patrick McGuire and Gabriel Programmed

0:40.4

on the rise of Kirstama in the election victory. But basically, as you'll have all read and

0:47.8

clocked, it's about Morgan McSweeney and the power he wields, which raises many questions.

0:54.9

First of all, let's us all reflect on this one.

0:58.3

Are we okay with the idea of a non-elected figure in Downing Street, wielding seemingly considerable power over what government does, over who's in the government, etc.

1:15.9

Or do any of us have doubts about it?

1:19.5

For me, I'm okay with that idea as long as the elected leader is held to account for what happens behind the scenes.

1:27.3

But what do you all feel, Ian?

1:29.8

Well, I have some concerns about it, and I'm sure we'll come on to talk as well about

1:34.6

Dominic Cummings at some point.

1:36.4

You're going to look at others.

1:37.6

He's back in the news this week with a rather incendiary interview with the Sunday Times,

1:43.6

I think.

1:44.6

So there's a fashion for it, isn't there?

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