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Spiegel & Holmes Show

Is Mike Macdonald a defensive-minded Ben Johnson?

Spiegel & Holmes Show

Audacy

Sports

4.2652 Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2026

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Matt Spiegel and Laurence Holmes discussed the similarities between Bears head coach Ben Johnson and Seahawks head coach Mike Macdonald.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Guys, I'm here with Seahawks head coach, Mike McDonald.

0:04.6

So I saw the video where you told the guys about division of hosting the NFC championship game.

0:09.5

Did you really think you'd be here at the NFC championship game hosting it and winning it?

0:13.6

No.

0:16.0

I mean, at some point, you know, but I'll tell you what, it's like I says, the power of 12 as 1, doing it

0:23.0

together, taking a day by day, having a vision, sticking to it, loving each other up,

0:29.5

it's just powerful stuff, man, so that's what you can do.

0:33.1

What do you say, the power of 12 as 1, 11 players and the coach.

0:39.7

And remember the Seahawks fans are the 12s.

0:42.9

They really are.

0:43.9

It's a good thing they got going out there.

0:46.6

Seems nice.

0:47.8

Being a Super Bowl, have a really good team.

0:50.5

I approve of the concept.

0:53.3

So look, I was reading about him.

0:57.6

The Athletic did a great piece on him.

0:59.1

Michael Sean Dugher did a piece on him.

1:02.0

I just want to read you a couple of things.

1:04.1

Please.

1:04.8

And I imagine you'll have the same reaction that I had about this, okay?

1:10.3

But let me give you a little bit of it, just a preamble on this.

1:14.5

Defensive-minded head coaches have won only 10 of the last 30 championships, none since 2018.

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