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Electoral Dysfunction

Is migration helping or hurting the UK?

Electoral Dysfunction

Sky News

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.4764 Ratings

🗓️ 10 July 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

There's a new plan for deterring migrants from crossing the channel and coming to the UK - but will it actually work? 

This week, Beth, Ruth and Harriet have a deep dive into one of the most divisive and defining political issues of our time: migration. 

In the week France's President Emmanuel Macron has been hobnobbing with the great and the good on his state visit to the UK, he's also agreed a new 'one in, one out' returns deal with the prime minister. So is this a breakthrough deal? 

Also - how could stemming migration cause problems for the UK? Are the numbers really out of control? And how does this all link back to the economy? 

Remember, you can also watch us on YouTube.   

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Electral Discussion. I'm dysfunctioning. It's too hot. I've melted.

0:14.0

Hello and welcome to Electoral Disfunction from Sky News with me, Beth Rigby.

0:18.7

Me Ruth Davidson and me Harriet Harmon.

0:21.1

Hello everyone. Ruth, you're still there. You've survived the week of intense mummy in.

0:26.0

I know. Like, I'm genuinely quite proud of myself that I haven't had to phone Jen,

0:30.8

who's been away for four days and four nights in a blithering panic going, ah, something's

0:35.8

happened. You must tell me how to parents and stuff.

0:39.0

But yes, apparently it's not babysitting when it's your own child, but I've survived.

0:42.1

It's been great.

0:42.8

And me and Finn have had loads of fun, actually.

0:44.5

You're back.

0:45.3

I wasn't sure you'd make the pod due to intense mummy in commitments, but here you are.

0:53.7

It's been a big week with the first state visit from a French president since 2008.

0:59.3

And also, this has been the fast state visit of any European leader since Brexit.

1:04.4

So unbelievable that, isn't it?

1:05.8

Such a big reset moment.

1:08.0

But I have a question for both of you.

1:10.5

Why is everyone so obsessed with Brigitte

1:13.3

Macron? The papers cannot get enough of her. I can't get enough of her. Harriet, can you not get

1:18.9

enough of her? Well, I am, you know, borderline obsessed with Brigitte Macron, but I feel I

1:24.1

shouldn't be. It's like a sort of embarrassing thing. But I am very intrigued and always looking closely at her clothes

1:31.6

and all the interaction.

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