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We have a lot to get into today. And I believe our guest is here. Oh, just a reminder. Hello, Ryan. I'm so happy to see you. Welcome to the show. Just a quick update. Miranda is not here because she's very sick. Just FYI. Her kids got her sick. She's sending us pictures of her thermometer. and it's no bueno.

So that's why she's not here today.

So it's just us.

Okay, love it. Just FYI. Her kids got her sick. She was sitting as pictures of her thermometer and it's no bueno.

So that's why she's not here today.

So it's just us. Okay. I love it. I mean, I don't love it from Miranda, but I still love being here. I love having you. You're one of my favorite people and favorite guests. And just really quick, Ryan is with the 1776 pack. He's the national.

His substack is called the National Populous Substact,

and he has a podcast called The Numbers Game. And you can find him at Ryan Gurdaski on X. You're not on Instagram, right? I am, but I, like, I shared it, but I don't use enough. I don't have, like, the time. Like, I'm like, oh, yeah, I haven't used Instagram in three weeks. I should probably post something for people. So I'm mad at it. You couldn't possibly be worse than Benny.

I didn't do it in three weeks. I should probably post something for people.

You couldn't possibly worse than Benny. He didn't do it for like six years. And then his employer was like, you have to start Instagramming. And then he was like putting up pictures of like, I was like no one about like national review covers. And I was like, nobody cares. Like, okay. You're not doing Instagram. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm a little better than that, but I'm not much better.

Really quickly, your podcast is fantastic. I really genuinely enjoy it. You have such, you get like such amazing guests. And like I said, you've been doing it. Is it like a year now that you've been doing it? Yeah, almost a year. And I have on Congressman Roe Conna's coming on for tomorrow's episode and then Congressman Brandon Gill is coming on for Mondays. So I do, I mean, it's really, I really try to not do like a debate show like everyone else is doing. I'm not trying to own people. I'm really trying to present as much information as possible. And rather than telling people what to think it's more like, here's all information so you can make your own opinion. You know my opinion, but it's not for me to sit there and, and nail over and over again what my opinions are and why they're right. It's like, here's all the data. You work with it, but I want you to be informed. You got a lot of attention because you interviewed Nikki Haley's son recently.

Yes, nailing.

Yes. And he's the, he was that he did interview with you first, the first one ever.

And then he went on Fox News.

And for people that don't know, he's former governor Nikki Haley's son, who is extremely MAGA, extremely like America only. I've been actually surprised that his politics

differ quite intensely from his mothers, at least from what I can gather. That's not anything

necessarily wrong with that. Are you surprised that interview got so much attention? And do you think

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