Is LIV Dead?
Hang Up and Listen
Joel Meyer
4.6 • 986 Ratings
🗓️ 20 January 2026
⏱️ 78 minutes
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Summary
Hosts Alex Kirshner, Lindsay Gibbs, and Ben Lindbergh are joined by Fried Egg Golf’s Brendan Porath to examine the crumbling of LIV Golf in the wake of Brooks Koepka’s reinstatement by the PGA Tour.
Then Alex and Ben speak to author Chuck Klosterman about his new book, simply titled, Football. Klosterman predicts the eventual demise of America’s most beloved sport, and explains why it will be widely misunderstood by future generations.
The panel wraps with more football, breaking down the College Football Playoff national championship and the NFL postseason.
On the bonus episode, available exclusively for Slate Plus members, the panel discusses the Kyle Tucker acquisition by the Dodgers and whether it's finally time for an MLB salary cap.
LIV Golf (8:22): Koepka is out and takes his punishments
Klosterman (25:49): When football is no more
CFB (01:02:27): Hoosiers are no longer the biggest losers
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| 0:00.0 | It is Tuesday, January 20th, 2006. |
| 0:08.0 | Welcome back from your holiday weekend to hang up and listen, the sports podcast here at Slate. |
| 0:12.7 | I'm Alex Kirchner. |
| 0:13.8 | I'm a contributing writer here, and I co-host the College Football Podcast, split-zone duo. |
| 0:18.9 | What a college football night we just have. |
| 0:20.7 | We'll talk about it later |
| 0:21.6 | after we talk about a big new development in geopolitics as sports. That is the PGA tour, |
| 0:28.4 | appearing kind of close to burying the Saudi-funded live golf, which lost a key player back to the |
| 0:35.3 | tour last week. We'll have a great guest, Brendan Porath, of the Shotgun Start podcast, |
| 0:40.3 | back on to talk about it all. |
| 0:42.3 | We will air a long, roughly 40-minute conversation that Ben and I had with Chuck Klosterman, |
| 0:48.3 | the author of more than a dozen books, including a great one, |
| 0:51.3 | coming out right now that's called football and it raises some questions |
| 0:55.6 | that very few football books do. We will then close the loop and talk about more football, specifically |
| 1:02.2 | Indiana winning the national championship on Monday night and making a lot of history in the process. |
| 1:08.6 | As usual, joining me for all of it is Lindsay Gibbs, Women's Sports Lead at CBS Sports |
| 1:14.0 | and the publisher of PowerPlays, a newsletter covering the key stories of the moment in women's |
| 1:19.2 | sports. |
| 1:19.9 | Lindsay, hello. |
| 1:21.0 | Hi, how's everybody doing? |
| 1:22.9 | It was a rough weekend in my household. |
| 1:27.4 | Boyfriend is a Bills fan bills fan so you know glad to be through it |
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