Is life meaningless without God? A live school debate between Atheism UK and Christian apologist

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🗓️ 18 December 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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In this live edition of Premier Unbelievable? from Aylesbury High School in the UK, stand-in host Sam McKee moderates a thought-provoking dialogue between: Caleb Woodbridge – Christian writer, editor and cultural apologist John Richards – President of Atheism UK Together they wrestle with questions of meaning, value, morality, evolution, human rights, animal ethics, suffering and religion as comfort. Is “ultimate meaning” even a coherent idea? If morality evolved, can we still say some values are better than others? This episode asks whether our deepest experiences of love, beauty, justice and purpose are just products of nature, or signposts to a transcendent source of meaning. Can atheism justify calling some values “better” or “more humane”? Does Christian belief offer real contact with ultimate reality, or just a comforting story? If you’re interested in atheism vs Christianity, meaning of life, and where morality comes from, this conversation is for you. SOCIAL LINKS Twitter: https://twitter.com/unbelievablefe Facebook: / https://facebook.com/premierunbelievable Instagram: / https://instagram.com/premierunbelievable Tik Tok: / https://tiktok.com/@premier.unbelievable 👉 Get bonus content, updates, fascinating articles, and early access to new episodes—absolutely free! Join now at www.premierunbelievable.com 🎉📢 • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://www.premier.plus/unbelievable • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/training • Support us: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/geolink/donate

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0:00.0	My dad died when I was nine years old and it broke something in me.
0:05.0	I spent lots of times homeless, causing even bigger rifts in the family.
0:10.0	I was out of control.
0:12.0	Green Pastures is a Christian charity providing homes and support for people facing homelessness across the UK.
0:20.0	As soon as I walked in that place,
0:21.6	I knew there was something different about it.
0:23.6	Through Green Pastures,
0:25.6	Andy found a home,
0:26.6	freedom from addiction,
0:28.6	and a new beginning in faith.
0:30.6	It's the best thing I've ever done.
0:31.6	It released me from that 23 years of addiction
0:35.6	and now I'm senior support worker here at Green Pastures Derby.
0:39.3	Find out more at greenpastures.co.
0:42.3	UK.
0:47.3	Hello and welcome to Premier Unbelievable.
0:49.3	I'm your stand-in host today, Sam McKee,
0:52.3	and we are here at Aylesbury High School in Aylesbury
0:54.5	in South Buckingshire, a wonderful school. Thank you so much for having us today. And we're discussing
0:59.0	the question of ultimate meaning and whether or not you need religion or God to have ultimate meaning
1:04.0	in life. I'm joined by two wonderful guests today. I'm going to ask you to introduce yourselves. So tell me
1:09.7	who you are, what you do and where you're from. Okay. I'm John Richards. I'm going to ask you to introduce yourselves. So tell me who you are, what you do, and where you're from. Okay. I'm John Richards. I'm the president of Atheism, UK, which is a national organization, as you might expect, with the name UK added to it. And that's about it, really. I mean, this is my job. Yeah, you've done a couple of unbelievables now, haven't you?
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