Is Liberalism a Luxury Jews Can't Afford? | Interview: Jonathan Greenblatt

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🗓️ 4 March 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Jonathan Greenblatt, CEO of the Anti-Defamation League, thinks it’s time for the organization to reinvent itself. As American Jews face a historic surge in violence, Greenblatt wants the ADL to rethink its old alliances and go on offense, targeting radicals and the education system that creates them. He joins Adaam James Levin-Areddy to discuss the ADL’s newly published “campus antisemitism report card,” the organization’s historical commitment to classical liberalism and a broader civil rights coalition, the left’s betrayal of Jews, Elon Musk and the Trump administration, and the challenge of differentiating antisemitism from anti-Zionism. The Agenda: —The ADL’s history is the story of American civil rights —Playing the liberal game —The Elon Musk gesture and finding new allies —CAIR —Can the Ivy League be saved, or is it time to build something new? —Antisemitism vs. Anti-Zionism. Can Jews be antisemitic? —Blindspots Show Notes: —The ADL's Campus Antisemitism Report Card, 2025 The Dispatch Podcast is a production of The Dispatch, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including members-only newsletters, bonus podcast episodes, and regular livestreams—click here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:32.6	Music Welcome to the dispatch podcast.
0:46.3	This is Adam sitting here at the headquarters of the Anti-Defamation League with the CEO, Jonathan Greenblatt.
0:53.5	Jonathan, thank you for joining me.
0:54.6	Thank you for coming in, Adam.
0:56.1	I'm glad to spend the time together.
0:57.6	So I am here to discuss the latest report card that you guys will have issued by the time this
1:06.4	episode comes out.
1:07.6	But first, I think just level setting.
1:10.0	I think our audience understands that there's
1:14.2	a growing sense of anxiety in the Jewish community, which is obviously the focus of your work about
1:21.2	anti-Semitic rhetoric and anti-Semitic actions, but I first want to understand and explain to the audience in
1:29.7	what you see your role as. And actually, let's start there.
1:32.9	Well, look in the spirit of level setting. We'll just step back. So ADL is the oldest anti-hate
1:38.3	organization in America. It was founded in 1913, spurred on by the lynching of a Jewish man, Leo Frank.
1:47.0	And ADL was created at a time when Jews in this country, you would describe them as being sort of systematically discriminated against.
1:57.0	So Jews couldn't buy homes, many parts of the United States,
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