Is Lebanon the key to peace in the Middle East?
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The Times
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🗓️ 22 April 2026
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
The shaky ceasefire between Iran and the US has been extended. Whether it lasts much longer or fighting resumes depends partly on Lebanon, where another fragile truce has been struck between Israel and the Iranian proxy group Hezbollah. So why is Lebanon so important to peace with Iran? And what happens if the ceasefire fails?
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Guest: Jack Clover, assistant foreign news editor, The Times and The Sunday Times.
Host: Luke Jones.
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| 0:00.0 | From The Times and the Sunday Times, this is the story. I'm Luke Jones. |
| 0:09.2 | So we were driving into the suburb of Ha'El-Salem. This is the most impoverous part of Dahlia, |
| 0:18.9 | which is the southern suburb of Beirut. |
| 0:21.3 | This is a Hezbollah country. |
| 0:23.6 | This is a Hezbollah stronghold. |
| 0:25.4 | And we are only there at the behest of Hezbollah. |
| 0:29.5 | They've organized what they call a tour. |
| 0:32.0 | They've invited foreign journalists to show, who cannot report freely in that area, |
| 0:37.4 | to show the kind of aftermath of an Israeli strike. |
| 0:41.7 | Jack Clover is assistant foreign news editor for the Times and the Sunday Times, and he's just back from Lebanon. |
| 0:48.1 | Hezbollah, a prescribed terrorist group in the eyes of the UK government, has been at war with Israel again. |
| 0:53.6 | After the Israelis and the Americans killed the supreme leader |
| 0:56.6 | of Hezbollah's financial and theological patron, Iran. |
| 1:01.7 | For the past six days, there's been a ceasefire in Lebanon, |
| 1:05.1 | but there was plenty of death and destruction in the lead-up. |
| 1:08.5 | So we arrive, there is a Hezbollah affiliated MP wearing a pristine suit picking his way through the rubble. |
| 1:16.6 | He was keen to show Jack and the rest of the assembled press the impact of Israeli airstrikes. The Hesbaly MP was pointing at what was a supermarket, talking about people who had died, |
| 1:39.3 | but all the time railing against Israel and the US for this ongoing war. He was railing against |
| 1:48.8 | any kind of engagement with Israel, who he saw as the ultimate enemy. He said that they'd been |
| 1:55.2 | committing massacres in Lebanon. You had young men lining on the piles of rubble behind the MP who occasionally would chant the name |
| 2:10.6 | of Nazrallah, the former leader of Hezbollah. And all the time, above, you're getting louder and louder. |
| 2:26.3 | An Israeli Hermes surveillance drone, kind of monitoring the entire situation. |
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