This is the Hidden Killers podcast with Tony Bruske and continuing coverage of the case against

Karen Reid. With people like this, they got to be hard to control. I mean, not that like one should be

trying to control someone else, but in an effect of an attorney keeping your client under control so they don't

get themselves in more trouble. Why do you think it is that she is, it has this kind of carte

to do to do and say whatever she wants? You have to wonder how much they've tried and failed,

but it is bizarre because with the story shifting,

with all the media stuff she's done, the films,

it's working against her.

And it seems like saying nothing would be the smartest thing at this point.

But she can't seem to constrain herself.

Is there any chance here that this thing was very, very traumatizing for her as well?

I would imagine it would be for almost anyone if you hit somebody.

And she really just doesn't remember it completely.

I mean, there seems to be pieces here that she remembers, but I don't know.

I mean, what did that explain?

The constant changings of the stories.

I mean, it's easy to look at this.

It's very narcissistic.

It's very borderline type behavior.

Is there any world in this where this is some sort of a weird trauma response and this is what we're getting?

Great question.

My initial impulse is to say probably not, but we don't know everything about the human brain. And it's possible that when combined

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