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I Don't Have Enough FAITH to Be an ATHEIST

Is It Wrong for Christians to Call Out Shepherds?

I Don't Have Enough FAITH to Be an ATHEIST

Dr. Frank Turek

Religion & Spirituality, Education, Christianity

4.85K Ratings

🗓️ 30 August 2024

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Is it ever appropriate to call out trusted pastors when they get something wrong? In this podcast episode, Frank responds to an email from a pastor and loyal listener who took offense to Frank and Megan Basham's recent criticism of the late pastor (and one of Frank's favorite preachers), Tim Keller.Resources mentioned during the episode:FRANK'S BLOG POST: He Gets Us, But Do We Get Him? (https://crossexamined.org/he-gets-us-but-do-we-get-him-the-case-for-criticizing-false-teachers)KIRSTEN POWERS' ARTICLE: My Complicated Feelings About Tim Keller (https://s3.amazonaws.com/5mt.jude3pca.org/2023/08/30112159/kirstenpowers.substack.com-My-Complicated-Feelings-About-Tim-Keller.pdf)MARK TOOLEY'S ARTICLE: Church Transparency? (https://juicyecumenism.com/2023/03/29/church-transparency)TIM KELLER'S Series of Political Tweets in April 2022 (https://x.com/timkellernyc/status/1520107742110834699)STEVEN BEGAKIS' ARTICLE: Tim Keller is Wrong About Abortion (https://www.christianpost.com/voices/tim-keller-is-wrong-about-abortion.html)

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0:00.0

Ladies and gentlemen is it ever wrong to call out a shepherd someone who is

0:09.2

Theologically conservative a pastor a teacher even just a brother or a sister. Are you supposed to call

0:15.8

someone out? Well as you may know we've done a few programs with Megan Basham. Her new book Shepherds for sale has created quite a

0:29.2

controversy and after the first podcast we did with Megan I got this note from a pastor by the name of

0:38.4

Danny and he says this I am a regular listener to cross-examine and often buy books of your guests.

0:47.8

I love Frank's ministry.

0:49.2

However, the Megan Basham podcast on Shepherds for Sale was very disappointing. I am a conservative

0:55.7

pastor that preaches through the Bible and have dealt with all the hot topics in

0:59.6

culture during my ministry. I felt the attack on Tim Keller was very distasteful. Tim taught the Bible

1:06.2

faithfully in New York in a way that engaged the culture in 1000s to Christ. Tim never ducked the hard stuff. The tone of

1:14.9

Megan and the know-it-all attitude would turn me away from Christ if I was a

1:20.6

follower, if I was not a follower of Jesus.

1:23.7

Attacking someone that is deceased was cowardly and demonstrated a lack of integrity.

1:28.4

Quite frankly, if local pastors hammered their congregations in communities with the approach Megan demonstrated on the

1:35.1

podcast no one would be reached for Christ. Finally if Tim Keller took the approach

1:40.0

at Redeemer that you suggest we would not even know his name. An apology for the tone of the

1:45.7

podcast should be issued by cross-examined, faithful listener Dr. Danny. Now, Danny, let me say this,

1:52.4

I loved Tim Keller. In fact, I listen to him more than any other

1:57.0

pastor. I still listen to Tim Keller because I think his insights on the scriptures and particularly for that New York audience which may lean

2:06.8

Skeptical I thought he was perfect. He was very well read. He always would bring in the arts and psychology and other aspects into his

2:19.6

sermons that would

2:25.0

be meet people where they are so I thought he was great for that culture but here is my question was

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