Welcome once again to the Conversations that Matter podcast. I'm your host as

always John Harris. We have a panel sort of we have two people two guests with me

today who are going to be talking about Southern Baptist related issues for all you

Southern Baptists out there. I know there's a number of you in the audience. Some of you bitterly clinging to the

denomination trying to keep it orthodox others.

Maybe you're former Southern Baptist, but you're still interested because

you're concerned about the left-wing drift and maybe you've left because of that,

but either way, this is the largest Protestant denomination and so it's going to

still be an ongoing conversation on this podcast to some extent at least and I thought it would be helpful and fruitful to have Mark Devine with us who is a writer who actually is a professor at Beeson Divinity School teaching the history and doctrine track. He's a former pastor, but he's

the way that I've interacted or heard about Mark is through his writings in the Western

Journal, American Thinker, Spectator, and the Federalist.

And then we also have with us Pastor Richard Henry, who's the pastor at New Harvest Baptist

Church in Kentucky and we've met before. He's in my mind he's kind of probably where your average

conservative Southern Baptist is going to be with a church kind of probably out in a

working class area and concerned about what's going on and so he's going to weigh in with his

perspective on what's happening as well. So welcome gentleman thank you so much

for giving me some of your precious time. Thanks for having us. Yeah thanks John

appreciate it.

My pleasure.

So I want to start with you, Mark Devine?

No.

Okay.

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