Is It Time to Rethink Darwinian Evolution? (Stephen C. Meyer) | Ep. 575

Pints With Aquinas

Matt Fradd

Education, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 7K Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2026

⏱️ 151 minutes

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Stephen C. Meyer sits down with Matt to discuss evolution, intelligent design, and the collapse of New Atheism. Ep. 575 - - - 📚Resources Mentioned: The Story of Everything Film: https://www.thestoryofeverything.film Bulk Tickets: https://www.fathomentertainment.com/releases/the-story-of-everything Books by Stephen Meyer: https://stephencmeyer.org/books More About Stephen: https://stephencmeyer.org Stephen C. Meyer received his Ph.D. in the philosophy of science from the University of Cambridge. A former geophysicist and college professor, he now directs Discovery Institute’s Center for Science and Culture in Seattle. He has authored the New York Times best seller Darwin’s Doubt: The Explosive Origin of Animal Life and the Case for Intelligent Design (HarperOne, 2013), Signature in the Cell: DNA and the Evidence for Intelligent Design (HarperOne, 2009), which was named a Book of the Year by the Times (of London) Literary Supplement in 2009, and now, The Return of the God Hypothesis (HarperOne, 2021). - - - Today's Sponsors: Relay: Ready to overcome porn? Visit https://joinrelay.app/pints and use code PINTS for 7 days free. Cluny: Visit https://clunypress.com today and save 15% with code PINTS15 Exodus 90: Download the Exodus 90 app to start your 14-Day free trial or visit https://Exodus90.com/matt to learn more. Charity Mobile: Visit https://charitymobile.com/MATTFRADD to get started. Free Phone offer with code MATTFRADD Good Ranchers: Get $25 off your first order and FREE meat for life when you use code PINTS at https://GoodRanchers.com - - - Become a Daily Wire Member and watch all of our content ad-free: ⁠⁠https://www.dailywire.com/subscribe⁠⁠ 📲 Download the free Daily Wire app today on iPhone, Android, Roku, Apple TV, Samsung, and more. - - - 📕 Get my newest book, Jesus Our Refuge, here: https://a.co/d/bDU0xLb 🍺 Want to Support Pints With Aquinas? 🍺 Get episodes a week early and join exclusive live streams with me! Become an annual supporter at 👉 ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mattfradd.locals.com/support⁠⁠⁠⁠ - - - 💻 Follow Me on Social Media: 📌 Facebook: https://facebook.com/mattfradd 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/mattfradd 𝕏 Twitter/X: ⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/Pints_W_Aquinas⁠⁠⁠ 🎵 TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠https://tiktok.com/@pintswithaquinas⁠⁠⁠ 📚 PWA Merch – ⁠⁠⁠https://dwplus.shop/MattFraddMerch⁠⁠ 👕 Grab your favorite PWA gear here: https://shop.pintswithaquinas.com - - - Privacy Policy: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.dailywire.com/privacy⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Why is this such a hot topic in a way that the beginning of the universe isn't? Well, I think the beginning of the universe is a hot topic and we should get to that because it's become hot again for some interesting reasons. Did God make Adam out of the dirt? Did he make Eve from the rib of Adam? Like, literally? Is that your opinion or what is it? I don't know what to make of the Genesis passage on that kind of thing, but I don't think it's implausible to think that human beings were specially created.
0:23.1	Do human beings and chimpanzees have a common ancestor according to you?
0:26.6	I'd be skeptical of that.
0:28.2	There's an important new piece of information that's come out.
0:32.0	Would you really follow the evidence where it leads if it did lead to a common ancestor?
0:36.2	The key question in the question of biological origins is the question about whether there's evidence of design or not.
0:41.3	Great works of science are not divorced from argumentation.
0:46.3	They depend upon argumentation for their prosecution.
0:49.3	Being a polemicist or an apologist is also being a good scientist.
0:53.3	So where do you expect Darwinian evolution to be in 50 or 100 years?
0:59.2	What do you think people will be saying about it?
1:02.0	I actually think it's already dead.
1:17.9	Good. So I have your book. Thank you very much. Thank you for your interest.
1:24.1	Yes. How long you've been writing on this for? I've been thinking about this since 85, 86.
1:30.3	It took me three years and three months. I think I was 30 some months to write, no, it was a little bit more than 33 months to write the book.
1:33.3	But thinking about the topic for a long time.
1:36.3	And then the film based on the book has taken four years to produce.
1:39.3	So it's been, it's a big year for us.
1:41.3	It's kind of a year of a lot of things coming to fruition.
1:49.5	Now, you came to faith in Christ after I remember watching you on Joe Rogan.
1:52.6	You talked about having some kind of existential crisis.
1:57.1	Did arguments play a role in your coming to faith at that time?
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