This is The Guardian.

When you have a US president that is quite so capricious, generally we haven't thought about the tech consequences, but really they are some of the most consequential.

You rely often on either Google or Microsoft to produce things.

Perhaps that could be weaponised at an individual or at a state level.

Across Europe, governments are becoming aware of something they used to take for granted.

Most of the technology they rely on comes from US companies, with Donald Trump tearing up the old world order.

Is that a problem?

From The Guardians today in Focus, this is the latest with me, Michael Safi.

Joining me is Chris Stokel Walker, a tech journalist.

Chris, thanks so much for joining us.

It's always a pleasure by to chat to you.

Chris, on Thursday, the French government made an announcement

that it would no longer be using apps like Zoom or Microsoft Teams for video conferencing software.

Instead, it was going to shift to a locally made alternative.

Now, the particular video conferencing software used by the French government

doesn't

ordinarily make global news, but this week it did. Why is that?

Because effectively they have abandoned US tools. They've decided they're not going

to bother doing that anymore. They want to promote homegrown tech because they are deeply

uncomfortable with what is happening in the United States and a growing sense, I think,

of an over-dependence on US tech. So big changes are afoot. So I understand why they might

be uncomfortable about the things happening in the US, but why stop using Zoom? What's the connection?

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