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Live in the freedom that God loves you unconditionally.

And he loves you unconditionally.

God's love for you is unconditional.

Preaching that God loves you unconditionally is the wrong message.

God has a goodwill towards everybody, believers and non-believers.

But there is another love reserved only for those who embrace the gospel

and put their trust in Jesus as Lord and safety.

It's time for wretched radio with Todd Freel.

Welcome in, welcome in.

This is Wretched Radio.

Hey, I am Jimmy Hicks, not Todd Freel. We had so much good feedback with our episode yesterday

with Pastor Mike for Barres from Compass Bible Church in Orange County, California that we decided,

hey, let's do it again again a subject that is worthy of further

consideration now what is that subject to leave your church

pastor Mike Famaras you've been pastoring for over three decades.

How does that make you feel, Mike?

Yeah, tired.

I'd love to explore that, but we're going to focus. We're going to focus on when to leave

a church because it's an issue most people at some stage have had to deal with whether it's because they've changed

whether they've got bad rules about when to leave a church or when a church it

starts to move away from you we've already established in our previous conversation

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