Hello and welcome to the GZero World podcast.

This is where you can find extended versions of my interviews on public television.

I'm Ian Bremmer and today, we are looking at the state of the Ukraine War two and a half years in.

Young Ukrainians who've grown up under the shadow of Russia's 2014 invasion of Crimea,

and then it's all out assault on Ukraine in 2022,

have come of age in a country at war.

How will that experience shape the future leaders of Ukraine?

And more urgently, what is Ukrainian President Zelensky's plan to win the war,

or at least not to lose it entirely?

Or is it time for Ukraine to negotiate with Russia for a swift end to the fighting?

We know Putin's plan, wait out the clock, and for now, it seems to be working.

Here to talk about all that and more is Wall Street Journal correspondent and author Yaroslav Trofimov,

who was born and raised in Kiev and has covered the conflict extensively.

Let's get to it. Yaroslav Tovimov. Thanks so much for joining us today.

Great to be on the show.

So talk a little bit about life in Kiev right now. We're well over two years into this war.

What is it like on the ground?

Well, you know, there is one direct effect of the war in Kiev that hasn't been really felt

that much last year, for example, is lack of electricity. You know, the Russian attacks on the

Ukrainian power grid really eroded much of the capacity and it shows.

You know, there are blackouts for several hours every day that affects the water

services, that affects the refrigeration chain in shops and restaurants.

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