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Beyond Today

Is it ok to pay women to have more children?

Beyond Today

BBC

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4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2019

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Hungarian women with four or more children won’t have to pay income tax for the rest of their working lives, according to a plan announced by the country’s prime minister Viktor Orban. He says it’s to reverse Hungary’s falling population rate, critics argue it’s a way of controlling immigration. We speak to the BBC’s Nick Thorpe, who lives and works in Budapest with his 5 children. And we also hear from author Thomas Chatterton Williams who is writing a book on racial identity, about what links this Hungarian policy to the global far right. Producers: Philly Beaumont & Georgia Coan Mixed by Nicolas Raufast Editor: John Shields

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts.

0:06.3

Hello, I'm Matthew Price.

0:07.8

This is Beyond Today from BBC Radio 4.

0:10.4

Every day we ask one big question about one big story.

0:14.0

Today, is it okay to pay women to have more children?

0:27.0

Philly? Yes. You're constantly going on about your kids. Yes, that's true. They are, they're

0:38.5

the love of your life, aren't they? Yeah, they are. Yes, they are. Oh, they say it was feeling?

0:42.3

Yes, they are. They're the love of my life.

0:45.0

So...

0:46.0

How many have you got?

0:47.0

I've got four, four girls.

0:49.0

Are they delightful, all the time?

0:51.0

Yes, all the time.

0:52.0

Although one of them has just got on the day

0:55.7

detention for wearing her coat in school. That's ridiculous. Maybe it was cold in

1:00.7

school. Yes maybe. Anyway the reason we're talking about your children and the fact you have four is because you, if you

1:05.8

lived in Hungary, you qualify under this new law that the Prime Minister is bringing in.

1:10.0

Yes, because apparently if you have more than four kids you don't ever have to pay income tax again.

1:16.2

So I thought, well P, let's move to Hungary or at least go on holiday and see if we like it.

1:20.4

What, see if you can claim the money?

1:21.4

Well, yeah, why not?

1:22.4

Well it does sound like an amazing idea, but actually when you delve into it, you realize

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