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Hi everybody. I'm John Donvan. This is open to debate. The episode you're about to hear,

is it okay to pay for sex?

It's about how best to write the rules that arbitrate sex work, how to reduce sex trafficking,

and how to keep sex workers safe. It's one of the more thorny topics in our modern world, and as countries across the globe continue to experiment with new ways to approach the so-called

oldest profession, we felt it was worth

revisiting.

It's a really great conversation, so we decided to bring it back to you.

And stay tuned because at the end of the episode, I'll be back with a few brief updates

on the topic.

This is open to debate.

Hi, everybody.

I'm John Donvan.

And in this episode, we are looking at whether when sex has traded for money,

the customers are the ones who should be punished as criminals, not the sellers, which has been the

case most places most of the time. Punishing the customer captures a legal approach known as the

Nordic model. It started in Sweden 25 years ago. It's being adopted in several countries

in at least one U.S. state. It holds that the payer for sex, and payers are overwhelmingly

...