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Hey folks, Ben Greenfield here and I have a guy on the call with me whose book I literally

just finished reading this month and it's not a super long book.

It's actually available as a Kindle single and that's kind of a cool deal where you can

get almost like, I guess I would describe it as a short story, it's not super duper short,

but really, really interesting stories.

You can find over on the Kindle singles website on Amazon and the guy with me on the call

today is named Miska Shibali and Miska wrote a book called The Long Run and The Long Run

and we'll kind of be talking a little bit about Miska's story today but in a nutshell,

it's about kind of his personal growth and his discovery of running and how it could actually help

turn him the way that he describes in the book description from an irreverent young drunk

and drug abuser to someone who learned how to tame self-destructive tendencies through ultra-running.

So today we're going to talk about this kind of thing.

The whole link between exercise and addiction and addictive personalities and running and

the difference between running and something like drugs or alcohol or other positive or negative

addictions and just kind of delve into this stuff and explore it in a little bit more detail and

all of course put a link over to Miska's website at MiskaShibali.com so you can check that out

and also to his book The Long Run which is a good read but Miska, thanks for coming on the call

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