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Oh, great and welcome to Pines with Aquinas. My name is Maddie Frattie and today on

the show we've got Jacob E-Marm debating Trent Horn.

The topic they'll be debating is is it generally immoral to invest in 401k's for retirement?

We'll have 20 minute opening statements followed by 10 minute rebuttals followed by a period

of cross examination where each person will get 10 minutes to cross examine the other.

Then we'll have 20 minutes of Q&A. So if you're a local supporter or a Patreon go over there

right now and feel free to ask your questions and direct them either to Jacob or Trent.

We'll try to get to some super chats too if you want to do that.

And then finally we'll have five minute closing statements.

So rather than doing a bunch of intros I'd rather just jump right into it fellas.

So Jacob you have 20 minutes to begin.

Okay.

I mean, click over on the clicky mid-device.

Well, Matt, thanks Trent.

Thanks so much.

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