Get to the Lions at three, but we're trying to have a conversation and maybe get ahead of something a little bit, which is how do we rank college football jobs?

How do we place them in 2025?

You know, the Athletic did a piece, ranking the Big Ten jobs, MSU, they got punched in the face.

They got listed 11th.

That feels a little low.

We know there's a ceiling on it.

You can't, you can't, they're not in that top four.

The top four is well established.

So getting your guy's opinion and Rico's grading system and just setting the table.

Yeah, I would say for me, Mike,

anywhere between six to eight or nine is where you would go.

It's just depending on how you feel about the team.

I think they're right there with Iowa.

I think they're right there with Udub.

I think they're right there with Nebraska.

Iowa and Nebraska, they're the only things in town.

So you're going to always

have fan support. If you can win, man, you'll get the backing, you'll get all the money because

you're not really, you don't have another school or pro sport. It's just there. I don't think any

Nebraska person is saying, well, I got to go and support Creighton, yet you don't really care about Creighton.

So, whereas I think MSU is, it's a little different because of where you sit.

You're going to have to share the pie with the pro teams.

...