I'm Natalie Moore. I fell in love with soap operas when I was just five years old, and I still

watch them. Their television's longest scripted series and have zero reruns. Now let me tell you,

soap operas aren't just some silly art form. They are significant. In this season of making,

Stories Without End from WBEZ Chicago, join me as i share how the genre began

their social impact and why these stories endure listen wherever you get your podcast

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From WB.E.Z Chicago, this is Nerdette. I'm Greta Johnson. We did it. We made it to another weekend. And it is somehow already April. Coming up, Dylan Marin tells us about his new book based on the lessons

he learned from his podcast where he literally calls up people who say horrible things to him on the

internet. He wrote a homophobic message to me, and I've been in touch with him for the last five

years. Plus is the travel guide in book form dead? I mean, it remains to be seen whether that's

true as an older generation of travelers is replaced by a younger generation of travelers

who might have less experience with guidebooks. But first, it's our panel on the week that was with

us. Today, we have two people who work on the delightful NPR podcast, everyone and their mom.

Emma Choy is the show's host.

Emma, welcome to Nodette.

Hi, thanks so much for having us.

We also have Jennifer Mills, the head producer, Jennifer.

Hello.

Hello.

Good to be here.

So, Jennifer, you also work on Wait, Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me.

And Emma, you used to intern there. Is this our opportunity to talk shit about

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