Do you think they're an armed resistance group trying to fight for the lip?

Do you think Israel is a terrorist organization?

Genocidal intent. This is usually one of the hardest things to prove in a case of genocide.

Not the case in Israel's genocide in Gaza.

So you're happy to believe those numbers?

Of course I'm happy to believe those numbers.

Israel needs to be held accountable and stopped immediately because it's the gravest crime against humanity that a state can commit. Israel isn't interested in occupying Gaza in any sort of permanent way that is not something we want. I'm not a Netanyahu spokesperson. Well, he should be tried at the Hague and put in the Hague. That's a different question. I mean, he's committing genocide. Different question. But you say you can't interfere in Palestinian politics, but you're very prepared to interfere in Israeli politics.

Genocide, not a word to be used lightly.

In recent months, the term, which means to deliberately kill people

from a particular national ethnic group

with the aim of destroying said national group,

has been leveled to Israel with treatment of the war in Gaza.

The Israeli government has repeatedly denounced the accusation despite the ICJ ruling in January

that it was plausible that genocide could be taking place.

Over 32,000 Palestinians, mostly children, are believed to have been killed since a horrific

attack on October the 7th.

A new report from the United Nations says there are reasonable

grounds that Israel has carried out acts of genocide in Gaza. This debate will rage on long after

this war is over, as will whether or not Netanyahu and the Israeli government need to be held to

account for their actions. Strong voices and opinions rage on both sides, None more fervent than those of my next two guests.

I'm joined by the American Israeli commentator, Emily Schrader, and a journalist and filmmaker Abbey Martin.

Well, welcome to both of you. Ambit Martin, let me start with you. To me, genocide would mean the wholesale destruction of a people because of their ethnicity.

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