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The Inquiry

Is Islamic State Finished?

The Inquiry

BBC

News Commentary, News

4.61.7K Ratings

🗓️ 27 September 2016

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

So-called Islamic State is on the run. Caught in a pincer movement in Syria and Iraq, the group has lost large swathes of territory over the past year. With its revenues and numbers of fighters also dwindling, the demise of the caliphate appears all but unavoidable. And yet many caution against writing them off too soon, pointing to the group’s proven ability to change tactics. Already, they have redirected their efforts to launching terrorist operations around the world. And their ideology is still proving an effective recruiting sergeant.

Presenter: Helena Merriman

Producers: Estelle Doyle and Laura Gray

(Photo:Syrian soldier sets fire to an Islamic State (IS) group flag after Syrian troops regained control the previous day of al-Qaryatain Credit: JOSEPH EID/AFP/Getty Images)

Transcript

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0:00.0

Before we begin today's show, a quick message. Very quick, I promise. We're coming up to our second birthday and our 100th episode.

0:08.6

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please rate or review us. Tell us what you like or what you don't like. And as ever thanks for all the

0:25.8

question ideas. And now back to today's programme. Thank you. There's a city, a small one, tree-lined streets, busy markets. In fact, everything about it was

0:39.0

pretty ordinary until one day two years ago, the day so-called Islamic State swept in.

0:49.0

Men now had to grow beards women cover their faces. No more smoking in public, new school

0:55.2

textbooks were introduced. And then there were the beheadings and executions.

1:00.9

It went on for months and months until one hot morning in August this year.

1:07.0

That day, after weeks of fighting, Arab and Kurdish fighters freed the town of Manbidge in northern Syria,

1:17.0

pushing Islamic State fighters out of the city.

1:20.0

After the last one left, the town erupted.

1:25.0

People went out into the streets,

1:30.0

immediately, and started doing everything they've been banned from doing for the past two years.

1:35.0

It was like an instant reversal of life under Islamic State.

1:40.0

Men sat on street corners, cutting off each other's beards.

1:44.0

Women tore off their face fails and set fire to them.

1:47.0

An old woman lit a cigarette and laughed through the smoke. On the day of our liberation, this man said, we all felt reborn.

2:00.0

And that's just the story of one town. There are others like it. In fact lots of others.

2:07.5

Towns that have been freed from the grip of Islamic State, one after another.

2:15.1

A few years back, 10 million people lived under their control.

2:19.3

Now it's half that.

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