Gad Sad, author of suicidal empathy, and visiting scholar, Old Miss, joins me now.

You know, it's really weird to hear these leaders talk about diversity after importing hundreds of thousands of Muslims who clearly aren't getting along very well with the people of Australia.

It's unbelievable. You know, as you know, Jesse, I've been warning about this for several decades.

Let's draw an analogy. Suppose you get married and there's diversity of thought in terms about being monogamous.

You want to have sex with as many women as possible, whereas your wife thinks that it's a good idea to be only true to one person.

That type of diversity within that union is probably not going to lead to good outcomes.

Islam may contain many adherents that are perfectly lovely, but does Islam contain tenets that are perfectly incongruent with Western liberties?

Nothing could be clearer. We don't need this kind of diversity.

It's very hard to screen those types of Muslims out.

I mean, you can't just screen away people like that. I mean, they can radicalize, they can self-radicalize, they can hide from customs and border

patrol agents their true intentions.

I mean, what is the solution?

I don't like the term they can get radicalized.

It's as though that's outside the religion, right?

There is no Islamism.

There is no radical, violent extremist militantism, right? There is no Islamism. There is no radical, violent extremist militantism, right? You don't just

add a bunch of isms and a bunch of qualifiers so that you can hallucinate about it being

different from Islam. Islam is a codified set of ideas. If I choose to ignore much of it, I will be peaceful. If I choose to take it seriously, I won't be peaceful. So it's not radicalization. It's simply whether I adhere to the tenets of the faith or I don't. And so to your point, you could never vet someone because these are people who had been, the father had been there since the 90s.

The son was born there.

So certainly from any vetting perspective, you would think they're well acclimatized to Western liberties.

And it just takes one trigger and off we go.

Unbelievable.

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