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Honestly with Bari Weiss

Is Iran’s Nuclear Program Damaged or Destroyed?

Honestly with Bari Weiss

The Free Press

News, Society & Culture

4.67.8K Ratings

🗓️ 23 June 2025

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

When we last recorded Saturday night, the U.S. had just announced its strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities. The U.S. had entered the war. The restrainers had seemingly lost. In the following hours, President Donald Trump said the mission was a “spectacular military success.” And Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said the program “obliterated” Iran’s nuclear sites.  But there’s much more to that story than meets the eye. As Jay Solomon wrote in our pages: Before the U.S. struck, 16 cargo trucks entered the fortified mountain complex and moved unidentified equipment to another location. Are the sites destroyed or merely damaged? Was enriched uranium smuggled out? It all remains unclear. Now the war is heating up. Israel has expanded its bombing campaign beyond nuclear facilities to hit regime targets. Qatar has closed its airspace. And just as we write this, Iran has reportedly fired toward Qatar and Iraq. It all begs the question: Was the strike on Iran’s Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant the end of this war—or just the beginning? And what comes next? To understand the state of the nuclear facilities and the state of the war, we’ve brought together three of the most well-read experts: Michael Oren, Jay Solomon, and Matti Friedman. Oren is the former Israeli ambassador to the U.S. He served from 2009 to 2013. He is also a former Knesset member. He is the author of many books, including Ally: My Journey Across the American-Israeli Divide. Solomon is an investigative journalist who has covered Iran and the region for decades. He just published an explosive piece for The Free Press titled “Did Iran Just Sneak Out Critical Nuclear Material from Fordow?” And, Friedman is our Jerusalem-based columnist, and the author of four books, including his latest, Who by Fire: Leonard Cohen in the Sinai. He just wrote  “After the Bombs: American B-2s Just Changed the Middle East. Now It’s Time to Return the Region to the Humans Who Live Here” for our pages. We’ll note we recorded this Monday morning, starting around 11 a.m. ET, as a Free Press Live event. To join these, you just need to do one thing—and that’s become a Free Press subscriber. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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From the free press, this is honestly, and I'm Barry Weiss.

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When we last recorded on Saturday night, the U.S.

0:39.3

had just announced its strike on Iran's nuclear facilities at Natanz, Isfahan, and Fordo.

0:46.4

The U.S., with seven B2 bombers, had entered the war, the restrainers had seemingly lost, and Donald

0:53.4

Trump had changed the game. In the following hours, the restrainers had seemingly lost, and Donald Trump had changed the game.

0:55.7

In the following hours, the president said the mission was a spectacular military success.

1:01.1

Pete Hegeseth said that Iran's nuclear program was obliterated.

1:05.5

But there's much more to that story than meets the eye.

1:08.2

As Jay Solomon wrote in our pages, before the U.S. struck,

1:12.4

16 cargo trucks entered the fortified mountain complex at Fordow and moved unidentified equipment

1:20.1

to another location. So are these nuclear sites destroyed or merely damaged? And where is all of that enriched uranium?

1:29.6

All of that remains unclear. What is clear is that the war is very much heating up. Israel expanded

1:37.1

its bombing campaign beyond nuclear facilities to hit regime targets and even the notorious even

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