Oh, hi. Welcome to this week's episode of the Eder Upsell part of the Vox Media

Podcast Network. On the Eder Upsell, a weekly podcast brought to you by your

friends at eater.com, Rosner which is me and

Greg Moribito who's my co-host right over there talk with some of oh hey Greg

hey Helen how's it going I'm good just doing the intro oh I love these I love intros. I love this part. The good part is like right about to happen.

Ready? On this week's episode, this is the part where I say what we're doing this week.

Greg and I are talking with Chris Sheppard, who, like everybody we talked to in the

upsell, is one of the most interesting, coolest, most successful, smartest people in the

entire world. His particular section of the world in which he is cool smart and successful is Houston.

Chris Shepard is the chef and owner of Underbelly, a restaurant in Houston that synthesizes the city's

extraordinarily diverse culinary population under one roof. He does really cool things with that and

approaches the notion of fusion or multifarious cuisine in an incredibly unique

way he's also got a fascinating side project He signed a five-year lease on a

restaurant space he'd been eyeing for a really long time and every single year he

turns that restaurant into a totally different restaurant.

It's called one-fifth, it's currently a steakhouse,

and it's about to become something else.

So stick with us, as Greg and I talk with Chris Shepard,

about his culinary philosophy, what it's like to be riding the rising

tide of Houston as one of the hottest cities in America right now, and his secret

to staying cool while he's on his feet all day.

spoiler alert, it is pedicures. It's a pretty rollicking conversation but before

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