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Wretched Radio with Todd Friel

Is Hell Truly Forever? Here’s Why It Really Does Matter

Wretched Radio with Todd Friel

Fortis Institute

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.83.2K Ratings

🗓️ 16 December 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Segment 1 • Kirk Cameron’s new video has reignited talk on annihilationism in Christian theology. • A 2022 email from Dr. John MacArthur warned this was coming — was he right? • Todd unpacks the semantic range behind the word for “hell.” Segment 2 • Bart Ehrman’s controversial article on hell is still fueling debate. • Key scriptures (Matthew 10:28, Revelation 14:9, 2 Thessalonians 1:9) are used to counter annihilationist claims. • Scriptures overriding message on the topic is clear: Hell is not negotiable. Segment 3 • Al Mohler joins the discussion in response to Kirk Cameron’s take. • Conditional immortality might “feel” right — but does it hold up biblically? • Matthew 25:46 is clear: eternal life and eternal punishment are a package deal. Segment 4 • Degrees of punishment in hell hint at deeper theological implications. • How we talk about hell shapes how we share the gospel. • Jesus didn’t soften the doctrine of hell — so why are we tempted to? ___ Thanks for listening! Wretched Radio would not be possible without the financial support of our Gospel Partners. If you would like to support Wretched Radio we would be extremely grateful. VISIT https://fortisinstitute.org/donate/ If you are already a Gospel Partner we couldn’t be more thankful for you if we tried!

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loves you unconditionally. And God loves you unconditionally.

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And he loves you unconditionally.

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God's love for you is unconditional.

1:16.6

Preaching that God loves you unconditionally is the wrong message.

1:20.6

God has a good will towards everybody, believers and non-believers.

1:24.6

But there is another love reserved only for those who embrace the

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gospel and put their trust in Jesus as Lord and Satan. It's time for Rretched Radio with Tote

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Freel. It's a trendy thing. Oh, indeed it is. This is Rretched Radio. To which trend is Dr. John

1:43.4

MacArthur referring annihilationism?

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It's all the rage these days on the internet.

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