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Is Greenland as big as Africa?

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News Commentary, Science, Mathematics, News

4.63.7K Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2026

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

The vast island of Greenland has found itself at the centre of a geopolitical crisis. But a little bit of geography can help us see the situation in a new light.

YouTuber and map expert Jay Foreman explains how Mercator maps - the maps that the vast majority of us use to understand the world - contain necessary but massive distortions and hugely exaggerate the size of the Arctic island.

So, why is making a flat map of a round globe so difficult? Why did we end up with a problematic map in the first place? And are there any alternatives?

Presenter: Tim Harford Producer: Nathan Gower Series Producer: Tom Colls Editor: Richard Vadon Programme Coordinator: Brenda Brown Sound Engineer: James Beard

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0:00.0

Hello, and thanks for downloading the more or less podcast, with a programme that looks at the numbers in the news, in life and in odd-shaped maps of the world. I'm Tim Harford.

0:22.5

The global news story of the week has undoubtedly been Greenland, the vast Arctic island

0:28.9

and autonomous territory of the Kingdom of Denmark.

0:32.3

This week, it's found itself at the centre of a geopolitical crisis.

0:37.0

It's the United States alone that can protect this giant mass of land, this giant piece

0:42.3

of ice, develop it and improve it and make it so that it's good for Europe and safe for

0:48.3

Europe and good for us.

0:50.3

And that's the reason I'm seeking immediate negotiations to once again discuss the acquisition of Greenland by the United States.

0:58.1

President Trump says he won't go ahead with the trade tariffs he'd threatened to impose on allied countries

1:03.2

that have supported Denmark's sovereignty over Greenland.

1:06.7

Mr. Trump said a meeting with the head of NATO, Mark Rutter, had led to the framework of a potential deal covering Greenland and the Arctic region.

1:14.9

As with any geopolitical crisis, it's always good to remind ourselves of the geography.

1:21.7

And when it comes to Greenland, that geography is more complicated than you might expect.

1:29.6

Greenland is one of the hardest places in the world to show on a map where it really is.

1:34.0

That's Jay Foreman, one half of the YouTube duo Map Men and co-author of the book,

1:40.4

This Way Up, When Maps Go Wrong. If you look up Greenland on a standard map of the world,

1:46.5

as almost all the statesmen and women of the world will have done this week, Greenland seems to be

1:51.2

blunt, absolutely massive, bigger than South America, bigger than China, bigger even than the entire

1:58.6

continent of Africa. It also appears to sit conveniently close to the entire continent of Africa.

2:05.7

It also appears to sit conveniently close to the east coast of the United States and much further away from Denmark.

2:08.3

But it turns out that this is all a bit of an illusion.

2:12.2

So why?

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