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hello beautiful people. Welcome to God is Gray, the podcast. Although I as a Christian believe that God resides in absolute truth, in black and white, we as people are stuck here on planet Earth contending with the gray. In church, gray areas often cause dissension, anger,

and even hate. But on this platform, I welcome open dialogue, variety of opinion, and differing

belief systems. God is Gray is meant to teach, inform, and simply trade stories with kindness,

love, and mutual respect. If you have a story or perspective to share, please

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Hi, beautiful people.

Today we are talking to Alice Gretchen.

She is an actress, writer of Wayward, and founder of Dare to Doubt.

Hi, Alice.

Hi, Brenda.

Thank you so much for having me.

Of course.

We are so excited to be having this conversation because we have both finished

reading each other's books. And I think my first question is, which maybe I know from reading

your book, but did you always want to be a writer? Because I see what similar in both of us is that it seems like it was always a catharsis for you. And that's how I'm going to be a writer because I see what similar in both of us is that it seems like it was always

a catharsis for you. And that's how I always describe it. Like there's so many moments in wayward

where you're sneaking off to journal and kind of process everything that's happening to you.

But did you ever know or suspect you would have a novel that you wrote in your hands?

No. I never. So yes, I've always been a writer. As you mentioned, like I've, I journaled so

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