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🗓️ 12 September 2024
⏱️ 29 minutes
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David Aaronovitch and guests discuss the challenges facing Germany. Worries over the economy and immigration have seen the far right AfD party gain support in the former east Germany.
Guests:
Guy Chazan, Berlin bureau chief at the Financial Times Dr Constanze Stelzenmuller, Director of the Center on the United States and Europe at Brookings Institution Marcel Fratzscher, President DIW Berlin - German Institute for Economic Research and Professor at Humboldt University Berlin Thiemo Fetzer, Professor of Economics at Warwick and Bonn Universities
Presenter: David Aaronovitch Producers: Caroline Bayley, Kirsteen Knight and Ben Carter Sound engineer: James Beard Editor: Richard Vadon Production Co-ordinator: Gemma Ashman
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0:08.6 | Germany is having a fit of the wobbles. |
0:11.6 | Run by a traffic-like coalition of Social Democrats, Greens and Liberals, its economy is growing |
0:16.9 | slowly, if at all. |
0:18.9 | And this month's regional elections in the former East Germany, where the far-right |
0:22.6 | AFD party came first in the state of Thuringia have led to alarm amongst the mainstream |
0:28.3 | national parties. |
0:30.1 | So, is Germany in trouble? |
0:32.8 | If so, how much and why? |
0:36.0 | Step inside the briefing room and together we'll find out. |
0:42.3 | First, we'll talk about the current political situation in Germany and later we'll turn to the economy. |
0:47.7 | With me, I have Constanza Steltsinmuller, who's director of the Centre on the United States and Europe |
0:52.5 | at the Brookings Institution in Washington, |
0:55.2 | and Guy Chazan, Berlin Bureau Chief for the Financial Times. |
0:59.0 | Guy Chazan, the far-right AFD Party, Alternative of Deutsche Party, did well in the recent state elections, East Germany. |
1:05.4 | Can you just explain very briefly for the listener who they are? |
1:09.7 | And are they like the other far-right parties in Europe |
1:12.3 | that the listeners will have heard of, like Marine Le Pen's Rézondement Nacional in France? |
1:17.4 | Well, the interesting thing about the AFD is that they're very much not like parties like |
1:23.2 | the Rézomlemen Nacional. You have these big far-right parties in Europe, like the RN, that have |
1:29.0 | basically detoxified their brand over the past few years. They've abandoned some of their |
1:34.0 | anti-Semitic baggage. They've tried to become more popular, more appealing to mainstream voters. |
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