Is gambling the reason we have pro sports?
The Indicator from Planet Money
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🗓️ 17 June 2026
⏱️ 9 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | NPR. |
| 0:06.1 | This is the indicator from Planet Money. |
| 0:08.3 | I'm Waylon Wong. |
| 0:09.5 | And I'm Derryam Woods. |
| 0:10.8 | The FIFA Men's World Cup is expected to be the biggest sports betting event ever. |
| 0:17.2 | And around the world, sports gambling has a long history that goes back millennia, all the way back to ancient Olympic games in Greece. |
| 0:26.2 | Spectators at horse races in England and France have been betting since the 17th century. |
| 0:31.0 | And it's been legal in many countries for decades. |
| 0:34.6 | In the U.S., though, sports gambling was essentially illegal until 2018. |
| 0:39.2 | Other than Nevada and a handful of other places. Right, always Nevada. Then in 2018, |
| 0:45.0 | a Supreme Court decision allowed states to legalize this kind of betting. But David Vakino |
| 0:50.0 | has his own take about how long gambling has been a part of American sports. He's the author |
| 0:55.3 | of the new book, Over Under, an unexpected history of sports betting. If you look back, |
| 1:00.9 | betting and wagering and the people who placed bets were basically at the beginning of nearly |
| 1:07.0 | every single American sport, league, and competition that we have. |
| 1:11.0 | They were the first ones to show up. |
| 1:13.4 | David argues that gambling is not something that grew out of American sports. |
| 1:17.7 | It's actually the other way around. |
| 1:20.1 | Collegiate and professional sports in the U.S. |
| 1:22.5 | exist in their current form because of gambling. |
| 1:25.9 | Today on the show, David makes his case that the American love of wagering fueled the rise |
| 1:30.9 | of professional sports, and he tells us how he views the current boom in gambling. |
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