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I actually want to start by asking you if it feels to you like we're in a pivotal moment in

how we think about online speech. Yeah, I mean absolutely. That's Jamil Jaffer. He runs the

Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University. Before that, he was a lawyer for the ACLU.

When you want to talk about free speech, he's your guy. Part of the reason for that is that

all of the big Supreme Court decisions that defined free speech for our society were decided

50 years ago. Almost every day, I see people tearing each other apart online about what free speech

means, especially what it means on platforms like Facebook or Twitter. These arguments have

reached a crescendo. As Elon Musk moves to buy Twitter, promising a place where speech will flourish.

But the problem, Jamil says, is that our current understanding of free speech was shaped by court

cases that are older than the internet itself. So I think part of the reason that it feels like

a pivotal moment right now is that it is a pivotal moment. We are now building a framework that will

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