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Until Saturday: A show about college football

Is Florida State an outlier, or the new gold standard for team building? with Mike Norvell

Until Saturday: A show about college football

The Athletic

News, Football, Sports, Sports News

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2024

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Florida State head football coach Mike Norvell joins Ari Wasserman to discuss the Seminoles' approach to team building. Does Norvell believe his team's portal to high school recruiting ratio is a recipe for success? Is it sustainable? Manny Navarro, The Athletic's AuFlority, then hops on the mic to breakdown Norvell's roster construction from a analytical angle. Were FSU's portal hits more luck based, or are they the new standard for how to build a team? Later, the guys answer a voicemail from the Until Saturday phone line (316-462-9852) about who belongs in the NCAA 25 game's All-99 club. Plus, what is the lowest ranking a team can recruit at each position to win a national title?


Read Pt. 1 of our NIL confidential:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5484900/2024/05/13/college-football-transfer-portal-nil-deals/


Read Pt. 2 of our NIL confidential:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5499474/2024/05/20/college-football-transfer-portal-nil-collectives-movement/


Listen to last week's show:

https://pod.fo/e/23ce9b


Who's the SEC dark horse? Sign up for our FREE newsletter and vote: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturday


Rundown:

- Portal reliance; "transactional program" a functional model? (:30)

- Mike Norvell joins the show (5:00)

- Opinions on FSU's approach + advanced recruiting (20:00)

- Is FSU's portal success sustainable? (26:15)

- Other "transactional programs" & how certains teams use the portal (34:00)

- NCAA 25 All-99 club (45:45)

- Lowest rated position but still win a title? (49:30)


Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852


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Music Welcome back to Until Saturday.

0:45.1

I'm Ari Wasserman, joined by Manny Spreadsheets Navarro.

0:48.7

We are going to touch a little bit deeper on a discussion that we had last week.

0:54.3

Last week on Until Saturday, we kind of peeled back the curtain a little bit deeper on a discussion that we had last week. Last week on until Saturday, we kind of peeled back the curtain a little bit on NIL and how things worked.

1:00.7

But it spurred a 15 minute or 10 minute tangent about Florida State and transactional program.

1:08.8

So to start the show, we're going to kick it to Mike Norvell, who was kind

1:12.8

enough to join the show and actually discuss a roster building in the way that he views

1:16.8

Florida states current in future trajectory.

1:20.7

And then Mani and I are going to go a little bit deeper into that discussion because I

1:24.0

thought it was interesting and maybe some numbers and some comments from

1:28.3

Mike Norvell himself might change our mind on what that actually means.

1:32.0

We're going to get into a mailbag later on in the episode and we're also going to discuss

1:37.2

and preview this week's until Saturday newsletter question of the week, which is who is the

1:42.5

SEC's dark horse.

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