Welcome to Inside the Hive. I'm Emily Jane Fox. I'm here with my co-host Joe

Hagen. Hi Joe. Hello world. We are in I feel like we're back in a different, it's a different world, it feels similar to the world we were maybe in in April right now.

We are seeing COVID numbers that feel eerily familiar.

I thought we were getting to another side of this and maybe that was foolish thinking.

I think it was thinking about the numbers and as we watch them go down for a while and then I think we saw people just get incredibly complacent, incredibly bored of staying in their homes. The weather was getting nicer and as I look at the

news every few hours now I just get scared all over again. How are you feeling Joe? You know I haven't changed my behavior that much. I've remained

quarantined and mostly semi-quarantined, but now what we're seeing is that all of

those good beach parties that the young people were having and the lake parties in these other states that weren't having to worry about it at first are starting to have to worry about it.

And they've gone New York and now they're sort of understanding maybe a little bit more intimately what they were seeing on TV in the coastal urban areas.

And you know, I'm just am waiting to see whether it has a political outcome, you know, whether or not they look

back and say, wow, now I have actually people dying where I as I didn't

before and now am I going to look at Trump and think about the way

the administration handled all of this and maybe second-guess that?

Well what's why what's wild to me is that when you talk about how how the administration is

handling this it feels very reminiscent of what happened in March where you're

watching the numbers tick up watching the numbers tick up watching the numbers took up, watching the numbers

stick up. And there is zero recognition from the administration. At least back

then we had those daily briefings from the COVID team. You had Anthony Fauchy, you had Dr. Burks. We have nothing now.

There is silence as we are in a situation that is deadly for a large swath of this country in very different reasons.

It's not the coastal elite anymore.

It's the middle of the country.

It's the panhandle.

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